Passion, grit, and consistency—these are the real secrets to success, whether you’re in podcasting, business, or any creative field. In this episode, I sit down with Chris Johnson, host of Passion Pod, to discuss the relentless pursuit of doing what you love, even when the money isn’t there (yet). We dive into why most people fail before they even start, the real reason big names take you seriously, and how making mistakes can actually be your biggest advantage. Plus, we break down what separates hobbyists from the pros and share some behind-the-scenes stories from our own journeys.

(0:00:00) Passion, Grit and the Pursuit of Purpose

(0:05:00) The Power of Peer Support

(0:10:00) Developing Specialized Skills and Expertise

(0:14:00) Observing & Learning from Others

(0:19:00) Overcoming Technical Challenges

(0:24:00) Balancing Creativity and Professionalism

(0:29:00) Building Meaningful Connections

(0:33:00) Fostering a Supportive Podcasting Community

(0:37:00) Embracing Mistakes as Opportunities to Grow

(0:42:00) Authenticity & Continuous Improvement

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